[lojban] Re: A (rather long) discussion of {all}

["Jorge Llambías" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On 6/3/06, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --- Maxim Katcharov <maxim.katcharov@gmail.com>
> > > > Use {lu'o} (or whatever) after a {gi'e} in
> > the same transient manner
> > > > in which English occasionally uses
> > "together". There are many other
> > > > solutions.
>
> Quite aside from the other points, this
> suggestion is not without merit, since we need
> some such temporary mode indicators (I suppose
> "temporary" is redundant, since modes are only
> for one place on one predicate at a time).

I suspect moving the word {lu'o} out of selma'o LAhE and into, say,
selma'o UI, is totally out of the question at this stage, so whatever
the merits of the suggestion for a distributivity marker on the selbri,
you can bet from the start that it won't fly if you present it in terms
of that move. Better introduce a new word for it. (That's my advice,
anyway.)

As for the suggestion itself, the problem is that a selbri can have
more than one argument, so it is not enough to have a marker that
says "this selbri is non-distributive", you need a marker that says
"this selbri is non-distributive for its n-th argument". Unless you want
to say something like "this selbri is non-distributive for at least one
of its arguments, use context to figure out which one(s)" or "this selbri
is non-distributive for its first argument" (given that that is likely to be
the one used most frequently).

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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