[lojban] Re: "la" rule

[Robin Lee Powell <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:30:47PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:
> 
> I will assume you wish to have a rule that does not require
> recognizing the presence of the 'forbidden' combinations in the
> word.  To do this, one would have to have all cmene  marked with
> one of the  name introducers like doi or la (I presume 'doi' is
> normally used  like 'hoi' in Loglan to precede a name used as a
> vocative.  If this  be true, then the parser can strip off the
> introducer, and the  remainder up to the consonant and pause is a
> name (I presume that a  person without a speech defect would not
> pause in the middle of a  name).  The LaPlace problem was in
> sequential names. For sequential  names we used the Loglan word
> for hyphen 'ci', which added 'ci' to  the list of name markers.

You know, I think that actually works.  Or, at least, I can't think
of any problems off the top of my head.

Call the Lojban name hyphen xi'i; laSTIvn.xi'iLAItl. has no
ambiguity I can see.

> While writing this, I realized  there may be a problem in the
> generalization. The Loglan rules were intended for the situation
> where the names were recognized as having the problem. The
> stripping  off of the name marker would only occur where another
> name marker was  at the beginning of a name, so the remainder
> could be recognized as a  name.  

I didn't follow that at all; can you give an example or something?

> Whether this would work in general would depend on whether the
> grammar allowed for a predicate to follow a name in an argument
> e.g.  le la Name predicate cu ....  and the predicate happened to
> have a  name marker as the first syllable e.g. Loglan cibra =
> bridge,  I will have to consider the general case in more detail.

That example causes no problem because "bra" can't be a cmene.

-Robin

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