[lojban] Re: "la" rule

[Robin Lee Powell <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:55:52PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:
> 
> On 13 Nov, 2006, at 19:45, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 04:41:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >>On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:30:47PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I will assume you wish to have a rule that does not require
> >>>recognizing the presence of the 'forbidden' combinations in the
> >>>word.  To do this, one would have to have all cmene  marked
> >>>with one of the  name introducers like doi or la (I presume
> >>>'doi' is normally used  like 'hoi' in Loglan to precede a name
> >>>used as a vocative.
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >>>If this  be true, then the parser can strip off the introducer,
> >>>and the  remainder up to the consonant and pause is a name (I
> >>>presume that a  person without a speech defect would not pause
> >>>in the middle of a  name).  The LaPlace problem was in
> >>>sequential names. For sequential  names we used the Loglan word
> >>>for hyphen 'ci', which added 'ci' to  the list of name markers.
> >>
> >>You know, I think that actually works.  Or, at least, I can't
> >>think of any problems off the top of my head.
> >>
> >>Call the Lojban name hyphen xi'i; laSTIvn.xi'iLAItl. has no
> >>ambiguity I can see.
> >
> >However, {doilaSTIvn.} is ambiguous still.  It's not a
> >particularily hard ambiguity to fix (strip *all* name markers off
> >the front), but still.  Does Loglan allow that construct?
> 
> No.  In Loglan Hoi would be used only before a bare name (which
> could  be a predicate or series of predicates e.g O Wild West
> Wind.  What is  the purpose of doi before an argument?

I guess that that feature is to save people having to remember to
drop the {la} when greeting someone.  I don't actually know.

-Robin

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