la .and. cusku di'e > Well I did try to find a lujvo. There really ought to be a gismu > for cassette/CD/diskette/LP. The U.S. Copyright Act uses the term "phonorecord", a glico lujvo neologism, to cover all of these plus methods not yet invented. I think the Lojban equivalent "snavei" is quite usable, plus being short'n'snappy. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.