Re: lo lunra selgusni ninmu

["Jorge J. Llambías" <jorge@intermedia.com.ar>]

la bret cusku di'e

>.u'i, that's another perspective.  if you don't know, that's a
>translation of part of a zen koan: two zen students & a zen master are
>looking at a flag... the first student: "it is the flag that moves" --
>the second student: "no, it is the breeze that moves" -- the master
>replies: "no, you are both wrong.  it is the mind that moves." 

That doesn't work so well in Lojban, because {muvdu} is much
more restricted than "moves". The flag flapping in the wind would 
not be a {muvdu}, which is something that moves from one place to
another along some path. Probably {le lanci cu desku} is better.

As for the mind...Metaphorically, we could use {muvdu} for the
mind wandering from thought to thought, but obviously that's not 
what the zen master meant. I suppose he meant that it is
the mind that "creates" the movement, being the one that
observes and names it, or something like that. 

>mi na jetnu djuno .i mi na zgana lo tarmi be le temci .i mi jinvi le
>du'u le pensi be ro prenu cu na'e banzu le nu skicu le munje temci .i
>.ai mi na skicu le munje ja jetnu temci .i .ai mi skicu le se lifre be
>mi temci 

i li'a i cu'u do le se lifri be do temci na sirji i mi na jimpe le du'u
do te smuni di'u makau i xu do na jinvi le du'u le temci cu purci
gi'a cabna gi'a balvi

>.i se'o mi ka'e frili denpa .i se'o mi so'i lo prenu cu prami .i se'o mi
>na'e cafne pensi la djes. .iu 

i ki'anai i mi pu krici le du'u do dy pamrai

>ni'o ca le cabdei ku mi mutci pensi lo drata pendo be mi be'o noi se
>cmene la djEsikas. .a'uro'u .i .ue .uisai mi caca'o tavla ko'a .i ti'e
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