From: pycyn@aol.com
li'o
<< words that don't mean what they're supposed to mean. >> Whence this "supposed"?
li'o
Well, without half trying i pull up CICTI'A for "storm" (i suggest TIMCAI),
which really means 'undomesticated weather', a concept which may puzzle
those from cultures where "wild weather" is not a common kenning. Or
SEZYKARNI for "diary" (i suggest XA'UNRO'A), which seems more appropriate
for "zine", since a KARNI is something published & distributed in
bookstores...
li'o
<<this distinction depends on having the longer, more accurate forms available for the same meanings.>> Whoa! If it has the same meaning, how is it more accurate?
i meant, of course, "more completely descriptive terms for the same referent". (i should've written it in lojban.)
li'o
Would you care to remind us what they are and how they fit in
Tanru are "binary compounds". Kennings are "compound metaphors", often of two units & thus deceptively resembling the former. In tanru, the modifying gismu limits the scope of the modified, or together they specify the area of their overlap. A kenning paints a picture; one term sets the context, the other makes a metaphorical substitution that suggests the referent WITHIN this context (famous example: "tunafish is 'chicken of the sea'"). A kenning is really a kind of naming (hence my ME LA). "Rug rats" does not mean LOLTAXFU RATCU & it would be seriously misleading to turn this into a lujvo...
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