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Re: [lojban] Two more type IV fu'ivla questions



At 10:11 PM 11/28/2000 +0000, Richard Curnow wrote:
1. In the online version of the Ref. Grammar there is a statement

  It is possible to have fu'ivla like ``spa'i'' that are five letters
  long,

yet doesn't spa'i fail the slinku'i test, because (for example) baspa'i
would be a valid lujvo (I leave the meaning to the reader's imagination
:-) )  So is the first statement wrong?

Nora agrees that it fails slinku'i. This is one reason why we have so strongly frowned on people lightly making up Type IV fu'ivla. We don't have ANYONE who can say without a doubt that a word will NOT fail slinku'i for an arbitrary word (we have some forms that seem pretty good, like the proposed fu'ivla gismu form)

2. Does Lojban make any use at all of CCV as a word on its own (e.g.
   spa)?

No. The shortest word ever proposed was "iglu", but I think we found a situation where that would fail as well (iglu zbasu -> .i gluzbasu too easily and I think there was another situation that was even worse in not relying on careful stress to resolve.)

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