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RE: [lojban] Re: ce'u
At 03:23 AM 9/7/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
Adam:
> la .and. cusku di'e
>
> > A fatci is something that is true of the local universe. A ka'e
> fatci
> > then is something that could be true of the local universe and a
> ca'a
> > fatci is something that actually is true of the local universe.
> > "X dies before X is born" is not a ka'e fatci. "I live in Paris" is
> > a ka'e but not a ca'a fatci. "I live in London" is a ka'e and a ca'a
> > fatci.
>
> So 'nu' is to 'fasnu' as 'du'u' is to what?
'bridi'
Actually, historically I think it was dunli, because du'u started as an
"equation converter" in Mex, converting an mekso "equation" to a sumti as
part of selma'o LI. This is how it is recorded in the 2/90 cmavo
list. Possibly after Cowan got involved and redid Mex to exclude the
"equation" type, or perhaps before, I realized that an equation using du
was more or less similar to a bridi and decided that the appropriate thing
was to convert it to a bridi (which later meany moving du to BRIVLA) and
then have a generalized abstractor that could talk about a bridi in a
sentence, most especially in the x2 of cusku. Later (possibly from Jorge)
we distinguished between the bridi and the text that expressed the bridi in
a particular language which became x2 of du'u and is actually what is used
now in cusku.
lojbab
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