[lojban] Re: fu'ivla rafsi and r-hyphens

[Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>]

--- Pierre Abbat <phma@webjockey.net> wrote: 
> I was asking about the Book's proposal, in which a lujvo cannot end with a 
> fu'ivla, so {banryglauka} is invalid. I was thinking of a word in which a 
> fu'ivla rafsi is both preceded and followed by rafsi, such as 
> {ba'orglaukyne'o}. The Book doesn't say what to do if a fu'ivla rafsi is 
> preceded by a CVV rafsi, so I wasn't sure.

The book says nothing about rafsi fu'ivla preceded by _any_ rafsi.

But in any case, an initial CVV will always need glue no matter
what. The only exeption is when followed by a single CCV rafsi. 
(Lojban morphology has exceptions for almost any rule you can think 
of, and the exceptions will in turn usually have exceptions too.)

> In my proposal, a rafsi that immediately precedes a fu'ivla rafsi must end in

> a consonant, so if you want to use a cmavo with no CVC rafsi, you have to use
> {zei}. I hadn't thought of {ba'oryglauka}; if it works, and all cmavo that 
> have rafsi have a CVV or CVC rafsi, it would be a way to make lujvo with 
> them. (I'll check later. I have an errand to run.)

"dza" and "jve" appear to be the only CCV rafsi for cmavo, and both
have other forms, namely "dav" and "jev".

We need an additional rule: when a rafsi fu'ivla is preceded by a CVV
rafsi, this rafsi will sometimes have to be y-separated from its 
preceding rafsi, if any. For example: {bardyba'oryglauka} for the
lujvo formed from {barda-banro-glauka}. {braba'oryglauka} is a lujvo
formed from two fu'ivla {braba'orV} and {glauka}, not from {braba'o}
and {glauka}. 

The "sometimes" needs to be worked out in more detail.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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