[lojban] Re: [OT] dai

[Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>]

--- "Adam D. Lopresto" <adam@pubcrawler.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> > Here's the original:
> >
> > @c      `You ought to be ashamed of yourself,' said Alice, `a great
> > @c    girl like you,' (she might well say this), `to go on crying in
> > @c    this way!
> >
> > i lu ei do ckeji sei la alis cusku i do barda nixli tosa'a ju'o drani toi
> > i i'enai ca'o tai klaku
> 
> Should that be {eidai} instead of {ei}, or am I not understanding correctly?
> That's meant as an honest question, since I'm still not entirely clear on the
> meaning of {dai}.

The way I understand {ei}, it is used to indicate how the speaker
feels things ought to be, not any person's moral obligation.
So the Lojban according to this means "things ought to be such
that you are ashamed of yourself".
 
(It just so happens that Alice is talking to herself here, so using 
{dai} would be kind of redundant anyway, but I wouldn't use it even 
if she was talking to someone else.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes
 

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