[lojban] Re: semantic primes

[John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net>]

I don't know whether it is normal English, but
that is how it goes for me, too.

--- Alex Joseph Martini <alexjm@umich.edu> wrote:

> to de'i li 20 pi'e 3 pi'e 2006 la'e zoi gy.
> John E Clifford gy. ciska
> toi
> 
> > I worry about this: it seems to say "in the
> actual frame of reference
> > of someone who might be looking at the
> mountain" (but, ex hypothesi,
> > is not), which would miss the point.  I think
> that moving the {da'i}
> > out to scope the whole sentence works nicely:
> "the ball would be on
> > the right of the tree for someone looking at
> the mountain (with all
> > xorxes quite correct assumptions)." The other
> possibility would be to
> > bury the {lo catlu be lo cmana} behind {tu'a}
> and leave the details to
> > be worked out later.  Byt the way, is there a
> regular distinction
> > between "on Billy's right" and "to the right
> of Billy"?
> >
> > [ li'o ]
> 
> In normal English usage, "on Billy's right"
> means 'on the same side of
> Billy's body as Billy's right hand is'. "To the
> right of Billy" means
> either Billy's or someone else's right side is
> being used for reference.
> Here, the thing being referenced could be on
> the side with Billy's left
> hand, but with the speaker's right hand, if the
> speaker and Billy are
> facing one another. This second case is
> inherently ambiguous without the
> visual context that we would normally have when
> speaking.
> 
> mu'omi'e .aleks.
> 
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