[lojban] Re: Medieval

[Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

Yanis Batura wrote:
> On 17.10.2006, 6:44, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> > komfo,amonan wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/16/06, *Yanis Batura* <ybatura@mail.ru <mailto:ybatura@mail.ru>> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     > Checking the Wikipedia article, it looks like it's a European
> > >    period, so
> > >     > {ronmijycedra} might work.
> > >
> > >    Hmmm... I needed that word for talking about ninjas and samurais... :) 
> > >
> > >
> > > According to Wikipedia's History of Japan article there is a period 
> > > called the "Japanese Middle Ages". So perhaps {ponmijycedra}.
>
>
> > Rather than copying the metaphor used in other languages, I think the 
> > common feature of the "middle ages" of both cultures was feudalism (and
> > indeed,  the boundaries of the era tend to be associated with the 
> > beginning and end of a feudal nobility (Yanis may have an opinion on 
> > this, since in Russia the feudal nobility essentially persisted up until
> > the 20th century).
>
>
> > So come up with a lujvo for feudalism or feudal nobility [...]
>
>
> Coining a lujvo for feudalism is *much* more difficult than for Middle
> ages. :)

Not really
lacnuptruci'e
tumnoltruci'e

emphasize different aspects of feudalism.  You'd want to choose one that 
describes the society.  European feudalism focused on the power nobles 
acquired from land.  The chivalric concept of feudalism was a system of 
promise and reliance - service in exchange for protection.  Another 
version of feudalism would be based on the existence of serfdom 
(land-bound servants system?), which would certainly be important to 
Russian feudalism, but I don't know whether it applies to Oriental 
feudalism.

The important thing is to think about the concept you want to express 
and what Lojban words point towards that concept, turning to how it is 
expressed in other languages only to break down a mental block at coming 
up with an expression.

lojbab



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