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[lojban] Why's there no ka abstraction for nelci?
.coi
I was wondering why no ka abstraction for nelci exists.
Wouldn't it be handy to be able use nelci more specific?
Like: {do cnino mi le ka xunre} (CLL:11:4:3)
[You are-new to-me in-the-quality-of-the property-of being-red]
[You are new to me in redness]
With nelci nelci:
(assuming:)
nelci: x1 is fond of/likes/has a taste for
x2 (object/state) in feature x3 (ka)
{mi nelci do le ka melbi}
[I like you in-the-quality-of-the property-of being-beautiful]
[I like you being beautiful]
{mi nelci le skina le ka cinri pluja}
[I like the movie in-the-quality-of-the property-of
being-interestingly-complex]
[I like the movie being interestingly complex]
The alternatives, using the existing language features, we came up with on IRC
were rather long winded in my opinion:
- using a za'i state-abstraction incorporating the property directly with
nelci
{mi nelci le za'i do melbi}
- using mu'i to state a motive (and again using za'i)
{mi nelci do mu'i le za'i do melbi}
- using some cmavo of selma'o pe {mi nelci le melbi pe do} (I think pe is too
general here.. anyways)
- or using be {mi nelci le melbi be fa do} (which is similar)
It's nelci's similarity to cnino making me think it would be be nice to have a
ka x3 for nelci.
Every single one of the workarounds stated above could be used to express
CLL:11:4:3 and would have to be used if cnino had no ka x3.
What's your opionion on having a ka x3 for nelci?
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