[lojban] Re: vorme

["Chris Capel" <pdf23ds@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Would you regard it as a bug in the definition of {vorme} that it
>> makes no mention of any such distinction between the x2 and x3?
>
> The problem is that doors are not necessarily only or mainly
> one directional, but perhaps it would be better to specify that when
> direction is relevant x2 is the "to" and x3 the "from".
>
> That would still not solve your problem though, because {lo se vorme},
> even if directional, could be "the place that the door leads to (from here)"
> or "this place where I am and the door leads to".

No, I think in the context of the passage, it's very clear that (the
side it leads to) is (the other side). If that were in the definition,
I would have understood that passage fine. This excerpt should make
this clear:

i la alis kargau le vrogai gi'e facki le du'u vy se jersi lo cmalu
vorme noi na bramau lo ratcu kevna i abu cidni sanli gi'e catlu le se
vorme noi traji le ka melbi kei fo lei purdi poi su'oroi se viska da i
a'osaidai abu barkla le manku kumfa gi'e cadzu co jbini lei va zdani
be loi carmi xrula be'o ku joi lei va lenku jinto

(This contains some other changes I made, FYI.) In any case, a {vu}
could be added if needed, like you said.

Chris Capel
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