[lojban] Re: Sources for luj1999?

[Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/Working/luj1999.ZIP
>
> This file contains lujvo that have been automatically excerpted from texts, semi-automatically converted into their canonical forms. It also contains frequency counts of this words.
>
> What I would like to know is which source texts have been used, and if they are available somewhere.
>
> To take a specific example, consider this line:
>
>  (2)         cevyspe                 god+married                                    canonical form=ceispe
>
> This apparently means that the word "cevyspe" was used two times in the corpus. But a web search turns up nothing for "cevyspe", save an older word frequency list:
>
> http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/frequencies2.txt
>
> What do I need to have to make sure that I have the context for every word that occurs in luj1999.zip?

You can ask lojbab, who MAY be able to find it in his archives, since he 
was the one who created the list %^)

In this case, the word was actually used only once but appeared in two 
different Lojban List messages reporting results of an early "phone game"

These are the two messages headers:

From bennetto-jack@CS.YALE.EDU Thu Sep  5 17:05:22 1991
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 91 16:42:03 EDT
From: Jack Bennetto <bennetto-jack@CS.YALE.EDU>
To: lojbab@grebyn.com
Subject: lojbanic telephone

Date:         Wed, 13 Nov 1991 20:22:39 EST
Sender: Lojban list <LOJBAN%CUVMA.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
From: Jack Bennetto <bennetto-jack%CS.YALE.EDU@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      lojbanic telephone
X-To:         lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu
To: Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@GREBYN.COM>

Here is the usage:
> Sentence 4:
>
> Each day Sister Margeret asked who had been able to do the
> homework.
>
> ca ra le pu djedi la margaret. poi cevyspe cu te preti
> loi (?) nu ma snada danfu fo le zdatelcli
>
> Yesterday, Sister Margaret asked, "What are the secrets to successful
> housekeeping?"    

It appears that "cevyspe" is intended to be the titular address for a 
nun.  Possibly not the most obvious meaning to someone unfamiliar with 
the culture.


lojbab


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