[lojban] Re: doi snan

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

from CLL 19.10:

The cmavo ``zoi'' (of selma'o ZOI) is a quotation mark for quoting unlexable (non-Lojban) text. Its syntax is ``zoi X. text .X'', where X is a Lojban word (called the delimiting word) which is separated from the quoted text by pauses, and which is not found in the written text or spoken phoneme stream. It is common, but not required, to use the lerfu word (of selma'o BY) which corresponds to the Lojban name of the language being quoted:

10.2)    zoi gy. John is a man .gy. cu glico jufra
    ``John is a man'' is an English sentence.
    where ``gy'' stands for ``glico''. Other popular choices of
    delimiting words are ``.kuot.'', a Lojban name which sounds
    like the English word ``quote'', and the word ``zoi'' itself.
    Another possibility is a Lojban word suggesting the topic of
    the quotation. 

    



So, while it does say that zoi itself could be used it sounds from the text like you would have to use it like "mi cusku zoi zoi hi there zoi"  where you have one "zoi" to say "prepare for non-lojban text" followed by another "zoi" to act as a delimiter.


 - Luke Bergen

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:07 PM, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:

In a message dated 5/8/2009 10:58:04 Eastern Daylight Time, jbotijlan@gmail.com writes:

doi snan lo cinri be do poi do pu jarco bu'u la'o zoi Lojban IRC zoi
zo'u mi puza fanza la'e la'o gy Heart Sutra gy ( uik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Sutra uik )

I've noticed this kind of zoi usage before, with zoi as delimiter, but is it right?
I understood zoi to indicate that a non-Lojban phrase follows, but that the word/phrase itself is delimited by a syllable not in the phrase, such as gy.

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