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Re: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please.



On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Dag Odenhall <dag.odenhall@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you miss these?

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Simple+gismu+B
http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/oblique_keywords.txt

No. I'm using the ones from the Simple gismu pages, it just takes time to copy them all over- I've gotten to {kijno} so far.

As far as the oblique keywords- it's not anymore useful than the jbofi'e phrases, and in some ways is less so, due to the bit about having the "[gismu][#];" bit in front, and since the jbofi'e phrases are already on the sheet, it's rather pointless.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:10:48PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> >    The list of the items is finished, the definitions for Smart.fm are
>> > not.
>> >    In point of fact, there are exactly three areas that are not
>> > finished- the
>> >    audio for the entries,
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> > the simplified definitions for Smart.fm for about 70% of the
>> > items,
>>
>> Trivially producable from jbofihe data.  I still want someone to
>> explain to me why we're simplifying them in the first place?
>>
> Oi, I've already said why. The gismu definitions need to be simplified
> because, 1) The definitions from the gismu list are, more often than not,
> too long for Smart.fm's cards, so they need to be shortened to fit, and 2)
> They non-vocal punctuation needs to be edited out.
>
> For this reason the definition for bakfu, which in the gismu list is "x1 is
> a bundle/package/cluster/clump/pack [shape/form] containing x2, held
> together by x3", becomes "x1 is a bundle or pack containing x2 held together
> by x3"
> The reason the sumti-fied gismu need to edited is because the phrasing
> jbofi'e uses is quite often very awkward if not downright confusing. The
> phrase jbofi'e returns for {lo te bakfu} is"any/some hold-er(s) of bundle",
> which can easily be confused for "a person holding a bundle", which is
> wrong, as the x5 of {bakfu} is "what is holding a pack together".
> Quite a lot of the entries can be used almost as is, but they still need to
> be gone through for that very reason.
>
>>
>> > and the adding of the items to Smart.fm with audio, which
>> > apparently we are still not to do as Smart.fm hasn't added
>> > "Lojban" to the language list yet.
>>
>> It's actually in the system now, just not in the right places.  :)
>> I'm talking to them about it.
>>
>> -Robin
>>
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