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Re: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please.
Argh, please use the oblique keywords list rather than jbofihe. More
human and natural.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the gismu definitions, all the extraneous stuff (eg. anything between
> any braces) to be removed, all '/' replaced with ' or ', and all variants
> removed (eg. "bundle/package/cluster/clump/pack" except for the one or two
> most common or most different. (so, for example, the word in the third
> and/or fourth column of the gismu list, with {bakfu}, that would be 'bundle'
> and 'pack', whereas with {balni}, it would be 'balcony' and 'shelf'.)
> However, as Dag pointed out, the gismu definitions already have a simplified
> form, so I don't think much if anything needs to be done for that.
> For the sumti definitions, for lack of a better way to put it, a humanized
> grammatical phrase. Some examples:
> sumti jbofi'e phrase Smart.fm definition
> lo bakri any/some chalk(s) a quantity of chalk
> lo se bakri any/some chalk source(s) a source of chalk
> lo te bakri any/some chalk form(s) a form of chalk
> sumti jbofi'e phrase Smart.fm definition
> lo cenba any/some vary-er(s) something varying
> lo se cenba any/some variant property(ies) a property of variance
> lo te cenba any/some degree(s) of variation a degree of variation
> lo ve cenba any/some conditions for variation a condition of varying
> sumti jbofi'e phrase Smart.fm definition
> lo dukse any/some excess(es) an excess
> lo se dukse any/some in excess thing(s) something in excess
> lo te dukse any/some standard for excess a standard of excess
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:36:01PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Robin Lee Powell
>> > <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:10:48PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> > > � �The list of the items is finished, the definitions for
>> > Smart.fm are
>> > not.
>> > > � �In point of fact, there are exactly three areas that are not
>> > finished- the
>> > > � �audio for the entries,
>> >
>> > Yep.
>> > > the simplified definitions for Smart.fm for about 70% of the
>> > > items,
>> >
>> > Trivially producable from jbofihe data. �I still want someone to
>> > explain to me why we're simplifying them in the first place?
>> >
>> > Oi, I've already said why. The gismu definitions need to be
>> > simplified
>> > because, 1) The definitions from the gismu list are, more often than
>> > not,
>> > too long for Smart.fm's cards, so they need to be shortened to fit,
>> > and 2)
>> > They non-vocal punctuation needs to be edited out.
>> >
>> > For this reason the definition for bakfu, which in the gismu list is
>> > "x1
>> > is a bundle/package/cluster/clump/pack [shape/form] containing x2,
>> > held
>> > together by x3", becomes "x1 is a bundle or pack containing x2 held
>> > together by x3"
>>
>> Again: that can be done well enough for the vast majority of words
>> by a simple script, and then fix the mistakes by hand.
>>
>> I just hate to see people spending human time when machine time
>> would do the job. Tell me what format you want it in, and I'll
>> write something to do what you just did to all the gismu.
>>
>> -Robin
>>
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>> And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something
>> other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
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