Re: [lojban] Re: transitive & intransitive

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Sunday 07 March 2010 14:10:06 Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:55 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Since an intransitive verb has by definition only one core argument,
> > this usage of "sance" would have to preclude the syntactic (not
> > semantic) existence of "sance"s other argument, x1.
>
> It means: "x2 sounds (the intransitive use of the English verb "to
> sound"), as in "the bell sounds", rather than the transitive use in
> "John sounds the bell".
>
> > So, what form of bridi is the abvoe gimste note on "sance" assuming to
> > be intransitive?
>
> It's a note about the English verb "to sound", not about the Lojban
> "sance".

Lojban is a null-subject language; it is perfectly valid to say "sance le 
janbe". English is not, so instead of "is the sound of the bell", we say "the 
bell sounds".

Pierre
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