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Re: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express?
Agreed.
-Robin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:47:47PM -0500, MorphemeAddict wrote:
> Robin,
> Do you mean that you say things like "What did you talk to him?" and "We
> said for hours"?
> "Say" and "talk" generally take different kinds of arguments, and it's
> only in their both being speech acts that they're synonyms.
>
> stevo
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:10:37AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> > The difference between saying and talking is that you say words
> > and you talk about things. So all three, say, talk and express,
> > are different. All three can be done with sign language or in
> > writing, as far as I understand.
>
> That's not how I use the words.
>
> "say" and "talk" are pure synonyms, and mean spoken expression,
> "express" is medium-agnostic.
>
> Hence, since "cusku" has a "medium" place, it is "express" to me.
>
> If cusku is "say" and tavla is "talk", for flashcard memorization
> purposes, I'm going to confuse them a lot. I expect, but do not
> know, that other native speakers would have the same problem.
>
> For purposes other than flashcard memorization, it doesn't matter:
> the place structure speaks (hah!) for itself.
>
> -Robin
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They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/