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Re: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express?



Agreed.

-Robin

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:47:47PM -0500, MorphemeAddict wrote:
>    Robin,
>    Do you mean that you say things like "What did you talk to him?" and "We
>    said for hours"?
>    "Say" and "talk" generally take different kinds of arguments, and it's
>    only in their both being speech acts that they're synonyms.
>     
>    stevo
> 
>    On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Robin Lee Powell
>    <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> 
>      On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:10:37AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
>      > The difference between saying and talking is that you say words
>      > and you talk about things. So all three, say, talk and express,
>      > are different. All three can be done with sign language or in
>      > writing, as far as I understand.
> 
>      That's not how I use the words.
> 
>      "say" and "talk" are pure synonyms, and mean spoken expression,
>      "express" is medium-agnostic.
> 
>      Hence, since "cusku" has a "medium" place, it is "express" to me.
> 
>      If cusku is "say" and tavla is "talk", for flashcard memorization
>      purposes, I'm going to confuse them a lot.  I expect, but do not
>      know, that other native speakers would have the same problem.
> 
>      For purposes other than flashcard memorization, it doesn't matter:
>      the place structure speaks (hah!) for itself.
> 
>      -Robin
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They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."
And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something
other  than  the default  outcome?"  See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/