Re: [lojban] cmavo list on smart.fm

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

+1

-Robin

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:26:13PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > I've compromised slightly, by the way; it's actually the keyword
> > plus the first bit of the "definition"; up to the first : or ;
> 
> I just want to strongly emphasize here the scare quotes around "definition".
> 
> > This just give a bit more detail, for learning.  Examples:
> 
> I would scarequote "learning" too. It should be strongly emphasized
> that memorizing keywords, most especially in the case of cmavo, is in
> most cases nowhere near learning those words.
> 
> For example:
> 
> > se      2nd conversion (2nd conversion)
> 
> If you don't already know what "se" does, "2nd conversion" tells you
> next to nothing about "se".
> 
> Even if you do have a vague idea, it still doesn't tell you whether
> "se broda brode" is "(se broda) brode" or "se (broda brode)" for
> example, so learning "se" involves something other than flashcards.
> 
> > lo      the really is (veridical descriptor)
> 
> which is ok, as long as you don't get the impression that "lo" is a
> definite article because "the" is a definite article, or that "really"
> has anything to do with existence as opposed to veridicality, or that
> "is" implies singular, and so on. I'm not proposing any alternative
> better keyword, but people should be reminded that learning keywords
> is not the same as learning what the word means or how to use it, and
> this is especially true for structure words. So flashcards are fine in
> helping with memorization of cmavo you have already learned, not so
> good for learning cmavo you have never met before.
> 
> /end rant
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> 
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