Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us?

[Michael Everson <michael.everson@gmail.com>]

On 30 Mar 2010, at 18:53, Kevin Reid wrote:

> These seem to me to be the essential elements of the situation. (I do not speak for Michael Everson, etc.)

I do. ;-)

> * Michael Everson wants to publish versions of Alice, including a Lojban version. These versions are all in Latin script, and he wants them to *look nice*, and he considers traditional Latin typography-and-punctuation-etc. to be nice and the obvious way to do it.

Exactly so.

> * Standard Lojban has rules about the use of punctuation, which conflict with the above.

Yes, but it also has some options which allow for some choices. If acutes are used for stress, caps are unused and are free for other uses. Same goes with dots. (The other uses are non-standard.)

> * Michael Everson wants to publish his Lojban Alice satisfying both his preferences and ours. Since there is a conflict, the discussion of the particular points will hopefully help determine a compromise which is not *UNNECESSARILY* offensive to either side.

It would be nice. 

> Yes, Everson *can* publish without any input from us, but that doesn't mean he *should*. He's doing the polite thing and getting our input.

Thank you for saying so. I am pleased to see a fair bit of support, as well as the middling support, and the grudging acknowledgement, and the out and out rejection. What a diverse community!

> Even if the Lojban community doesn't accept his work as being adequate Lojban, we at least know what his motives were. Even if Everson doesn't take our advice, he is at least more informed about the significance to Lojbanists of his choices; he can make choices which which are neutral to him and less irritating to us.

I guess I can make no promises. But I'm interested in possibilities.

> Of course, a large portion of the discussion is bikeshed painting, or whatever you want to call it; but *stomping on the discussion is not the right answer*.

What is this bike-shed thing? (I parsed this as bi-kesh'd the first time I saw it.)\

Michael

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