Re: [lojban] Michael Everson, What Do You Want From Us?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:28:07PM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Matt Arnold
> <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:58:02PM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Let the discussion happen. I'm not stomping on it,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your gracious concession! I feel much relieved we
> > > can have a discussion!
> >
> > Seriously? You think you need permission? Don't paint yourself
> > as a victim of tyranny in this scenario.
>
> That was not the intent. It was just a way to highlight how
> pretentious was your tone in asking Michael about "what does he
> wants".  I might not need permission to discuss but it seems he
> owes you a justification.

What he was *asking* was whether there was a reason that he, as LLG
President, needs to keep up with a *huge* email thread (I myself
stopped reading it about two days ago; I simply have too many other
demands on my time).

> Seriously, your post is full of negative and aggressive sentences.

And your response to Matt's clarification was incredibly rude.  If
you can't comprehend why someone would need to ignore a
multi-hundred mail thread in favour of other things, I can only hope
that your life will continue to be such a bastion of free time.

On the other hand, Matt and I between us do all the work around here
that no-one wants to do (he does book fulfillment, and I do
book-keeping and site maintenance), and we're both incredibly busy.
I routinely have to choose between fixing Lojban problems and doing
the work I'm actually paid for and eating a meal, because I don't
have time for all three.

So, while I'm aware that Matt's original post was more than a little
harsh, I thought his clarification was just fine (he needs to know
if this is a priority for him to stay on top of as LLG president),
and you should cut him some slack.

> Don't try to paint yourself as victim of boring, pointless and
> uninteresting discussions since nobody forces you to be part of
> it.

Actually, they *do* force him to be a part of it: as Presdient, it's
his job to know what's going on in the community.  He was asking,
quite reasonably (if not in a terribly reasonable fashion), for a
"get out of gigantic discussion free" card.

Matt: In general, if you need to know about something, I'm sure
someone will tell you.  Feel free to drop out of discussions
whenever; I certainly do.

-Robin

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