Re: [lojban] Re: Translation needed

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

From: "Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>



la adam cusku di'e

>I think you're being too strict. We often do multiplication, say, with
>numbers of actual things, for example "3 meals times 5 is 15
>meals".

That one is ok, if you figure how to get a sumti for
a dimensioned number like "3 meals". I suppose you are
not saying that there are some three given meals that
turn out to be some 15 given meals when they get
multiplied by 5. So, assuming there is a way to have
dimensioned numbers as sumti in Lojban, then the dimensions
of x1 of pliji have to match the dimensions of x2
times those of x3.

>Actually, I was a bit uneasy with it too, until I realized that
>if were to make up the exact place structure that I want, it would be
>the same as pilji. In this case 'xecto' would probably work, and
>maybe it's better here, but it's not a general solution for non-round
>numbers, or for addition and subtraction, etc.

I don't have a problem with saying that if I add this apple
to this orange I get these two fruits. I am not sure what it
means to say that I multiply this apple by the number three.

Ok, I can accept this:

     le vi ci plise cu pliji li ci le va pa plise
     These three apples are 3 times that one apple.

>OTOH, you're probably right that I'm saying that each of the 800m
>people is the product, and I'm not sure how to get around that.

You have to refer to them as a mass: {lo prenu 800ki'oki'omei},
{lei 800ki'oki'o prenu}, etc.

co'o mi'e xorxes

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