RE: [lojban] ka + makau (was: ce'u (was: vliju'a

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote:

>
> la and cusku di'e
>
> > > > >        le nu xokau prenu cu zvati cu spaji mi
> >
> >OK, but I now realize that there is an apparent ambiguity
> >in your example. I originally thought it meant "I'm surprised
> >how-many people there are" (which I still think may be what
> >you intended), in which case my original comments and attempt
> >to rephrase still stand.
>
> That's what I meant, yes.
>
> >However, based on your remarks (and assuming that your story
> >is correct), I think your sentence actually means something
> >like "However many people there are here, their being here surprises
> >me".
>
> Not their being here. "However many people there are, there being
> that many here surprises me". That is, if there are four people
> here, then there being four people here is what surprises me.
> It can't be "their" being here that surprises me since I made no
> reference to anyone in particular. That would be:
>
>    le nu le xokau prenu cu zvati cu spaji mi
>    That the (however many) people are here surprises me.
>
> That indeed means something like "However many people there are
> here, their being here surprises me".



It appears to me our ideas of kau are converging.

kau turns a question word into a variable of that type. makau is a sumti,
xokau is a number, jikau is a logical value, etc.




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