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Re: [lojban] BPFK Announcement: Orthography
It's just as well, because as you see here:
http://penguicon.org/
Penguicon is now canceled in preference to Wheatoncon. So unless we
can find some relation between Lojban and Wil Wheaton, we will have
jbonunsla in the back of the convention's moving truck.
-Matt
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
> Teehee.... I really enjoy that the most irritating part of this proposal to
> me would writing stress on all of the cmavo :p
> Damn linguistics...
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 09:52, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Pursuant to the recent discussion, the BPFK has been meeting to
>> decide what to do about declaring a very specific, offical Lojban
>> orthography that includes the best of various proposals extant, a
>> standard of marking stress that everyone can agree on, and the
>> flexibility to deal with alternative modes of typography in Latin
>> script.
>>
>> To that end, we've settled on the following general principles. See
>> below for a specific example (using the Alice translation,
>> naturally).
>>
>> 1. It has always been a founding principle of Lojban that it should
>> be easy to use with computers (this is what the ASCII convention was
>> about). Taking this further leads to two minor changes:
>>
>> a. A new set of letters for marking stress has been chosen, that
>> is at least as easy to use as capitals, but leaves capitals free
>> for other orthographic uses without conflict. For the most part,
>> these letters were taken from current standard internet practice,
>> however stressed "u" and "y" have no such standard, so they were
>> picked to resemble similar practice, but have no weight of long
>> use to back them up, unfortunately.
>>
>> b. The letter ' is now deprecated, since it routinely
>> upsets computers (try dealing with a file named "lo'i.mp3" in a
>> shell script some time).
>>
>> 2. While periods are preferred, it is always allowed to drop
>> periods, as before, but if you do so, it is preferred that you
>> replace the following letter with its capital form, to enhance
>> visual distinctiveness. For cases where a period has been dropped,
>> and the next letter is a stress letter, it's preferred to use both,
>> marking the text in some way to indicate that both are intended to
>> occupy the same space. Details of this markup are left to usage to
>> decide.
>>
>> 3. It is preferred to always mark stress, especially since we have
>> a much more convenient way to do so now; why leave out information
>> if you don't have to? This includes cmavo.
>>
>> 4. Compound cmavo are no longer allowed, at all. Their use will
>> result in several large men arriving at your house in an unmarked
>> black car.
>>
>> 5. For obvious reasons, using numerals for "p4", "r3", "c1", and so
>> on is deprecated.
>>
>> Here's an example of a not-totally-standard (because it drops
>> periods), but perfectly valid, text under the new proposal:
>>
>> p4 m0ho m0hi n1ha l3 r4ctu k3vna
>> ================================
>>
>> N1ho l4 (4|A)lis c0ha t4tpi l3 n_ z_tse l3 r1rxe k0rbi r3ho l3
>> m3nsi g1he z_kte f1 n0d4 (1|I) (4|A) b_ b01 p4 j1hi r3 r01 s_tra
>> zg4na g1he z_kte f1 n0 d4 (1|I) (4|A) b_ b01 s_ho r01 s_tra zg4na
>> l3 c_kta p01 l3 m3nsi c_ tc1du (1|I) k_hi c/ v4sru n0 p1xra j4
>> nunc4snu (1|I) l_ j1ha m4 pr4li s31 l4 (4|A)lis p3nsi f1 l0 c_kta
>> p0i v4sru n0 p1xra j4 nunc4snu l1hu
>>
>> (1|I) (4|A) b_ c4ho m3nli jd1ce t0 s3 k41 l3 x4grai selk4he p3
>> v4ho l3 n_ l3 gl4re dj3di c_ r1nka l3 n_ (4|A) b_ l1fri l3 n_
>> s1pydji j3 b3bna t01 l3 d_hu x_ k4_ l3 n_ pl_ka f4 l3 n_ zb4su l0
>> xr_la l1nsi c_ s3 v4mji l3 r4ktu p01 n_ sahirb1ho g1he cr3pu l31
>> xr_la (1|I) c4 b0 s_ksa f4 l3 n_ l0 bl4bi r4ctu p01 xunbl4bi s3
>> k4nla c_ b4jra z0ha (4|A) b_
>>
>> You're welcome to talk amongst yourselves, of course, but this is
>> already a done deal; the BPFK has spoken, this is now official, and
>> the BPFK has a majority in the LLG, so you pretty much get to suck
>> it up.
>>
>> -Robin
>>
>> --
>> OMFG am I not actually speaking for the BPFK here. Note the date.
>> No offense to anyone, including Everson and xorxes, is intended.
>> kthxbye
>>
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