On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Christopher Doty <
suomichris@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think it works for all examples, not just a select few.
least an unbiased sample, let's say aaa, aab, aba, abb, baa, bab, bba,
bbb.
(Not sure if all of them are in use, if not, replace a vowel or a
consonant by another vowel or consonant.)
> Some will need
> various changes to make them fit (three-consonant codes, for example, will
> need a buffer vowel, or the addition of an autonym vowel somewhere, for
> example), but there is no reason that we couldn't do that in a consistent
> way, so that, say, if you see a buffer vowel, get it out of there when
> you're looking for the autonym (that was in obvious, I realize, but it could
> still work for other things).
How will you tell a buffer vowel apart from a vowel coming from the code?
> I think, too, that the representation of language family is a great idea,
> but I wonder about giving ourself more leeway with the form these would
> take. {-ine}, for example, works pretty well; {-esx} less so. We might be
> able to get a better match if we used the language family codes as the first
> part of the fu'ivla and changed them a bit to assure that they had a good
> cluster in a require position; we thus wouldn't have to tweak the language
> code as much (if at all, except clusters), making it more recognizable.
> {-ine}, for example, might become {.inde-}. And, presumably, the language
> code is more important to be able to look up than the family code.
That starts to look a bit like what I proposed, with the prefix
"bangu-" replaced by something coming from the language family.
> We could also do some other things to make pretty clusters that are more
> autonymic. For example, the Niger-Congo language family is spread across
> nearly all of Africa, and is such a large grouping as to not be that useful.
> But, as mentioned before, nearly all Bantu languages (a large subset of
> Niger-Congo) have a prefix for languages of the form ki-, with variants in
> different languages like iki- and ichi-. Thus, we could use a separate
> prefix for Bantu languages, say {itci-} or {tci-} making them look more
> autonymic.
".itci" won't work, as the ".i" will fall off, "tci-" might, but
depending on what follows, you could end up with lujvo forms.
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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