Re: [lojban] Cultural fu'ivla: summary and list of the ISO generated ones

You misspelled "curency" (one r instead of two)

Fixed that for you

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com> wrote:

The new currencies table is this:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdGVWcWpsSTVBQ0htZS1pb3pTYUNSNVE&hl=en

I understand that the list seems awful, but they are not terrible. You
don't always talk about 7000 countries and their languages and
currencies. You don't know all their names. And, finally, no one forces
anyone to know all of them; if someone doesn't like a word, just creates
another one and use it. You may link that new word in the comments of
the word in jbovlaste.

The seem difficult to learn, but again, you've only to know 2 or 3
letters, and most of the times they resemble what you're talking about.

The prefix are useful as they are in lujvo, or fu'ivla type-3; you may
not know which, for example, country is the other person talking about,
but you'll know is a country (and you can ask later which country is it).

mu'o mi'e leos

El 09/04/2010 02:35 p.m., Christopher Doty escribió:

> I am still absolutely, one hundred percent opposed to the idea of having
> 7,000 words with an identical first syllable for related concepts. This
> is not how language works, and it is not how the human brain works.
>
> Jorge brought up an example previously of things (something) like
> "Iceland, Swaziland, etc." to point out that words having the same
> morpheme in the same place wasn't an issue. But, again, this is
> demonstrably NOT how languages work. Having the same suffix on a word
> is not the same as having the same prefix. Having the same prefix will
> make the words VERY hard to learn.
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 09:05, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com

> <mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I did a list with the 3 ISO generated fu'ivla that where proposed:
> countries (ISO 3166), languages (ISO 639-3) and currencies (ISO 4217).
>
> The script also generates a jbovlaste-like definitions, separated with
> ';', so I created a table (like .csc), and upload it to google docs. (If
> you are not confortable using it, you can download the file in several
> different formats.) I did this because the idea is to mass upload them;
> I asked Robin if he can do that, and he only needed that the files had
> that format.
>
> My idea is to discuss now if there is something wrong with the
> definitions. You can change little things if you feel it, and if you
> want to change something in all the definitions, tell me and I'll change
> it in the script. Those files are going to be the ones I give Robin to
> upload to jbovlaste.
>
> The columns are:
>
> - valsi
> - definition
> - Prefix (I don't know if this should go there.)
> - gloss word (this can be changed)
> - in the sense of (this too)
>
> The last points are where I feel insecure. I can also make a column with
> "comments", telling that this are ISO generated or whatever... and can
> also have a link to other word meaning the same (like mergu'e in
> gugde'usu).
>
> The files are:
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdENVckVaOTJLbVdGVE5SeGJ0MTBTbGc&hl=en
> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdENVckVaOTJLbVdGVE5SeGJ0MTBTbGc&hl=en>
> : countries (247 fu'ivla) and currencies (172)
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdGNYUFhrdmV1cmpLeVVQZkNSU3dBYUE&hl=en
> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdGNYUFhrdmV1cmpLeVVQZkNSU3dBYUE&hl=en>
> : languages part 1 (from banga'a'a to banlukusu, 3687 fu'ivla)
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdC1ENjlQTmZ1ZjlidFAwWDdvZDBUUWc&hl=en
> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdC1ENjlQTmZ1ZjlidFAwWDdvZDBUUWc&hl=en>
> : languages part 2 (from banlukutu to banzuzuju, 4232 fu'ivla)
>
> That gives us a total of 8338 fu'ivla .uesai
>
> I know it's a really huge number, but this may be really useful .ui
>
> mu'o mi'e .leos.
>
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