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Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo



Lindar wrote:
Bob, you've done a bit of placing words in my mouth, as it were.

My apologies, if I've misunderstood. As I've said, I've been sensitized for that sort of thing from losing so many people over the years.

 I'm
not scared of further change, but more so I'm annoyed by my inability
to follow discussions due to the technical language surrounding it and
by the fact that we've wasted so much damn time arguing about really
small semantics instead of just making a damn decision and trying it
out.

The academics want to reason things out and get it right. Trying it out if it is logically imperfect is what they don't want. (And I'm sometimes not sure all of them really care about making decisions at all).

Also, I get what you mean about UI, but it seems like it's the
only thing anybody bothers to learn and I'm tired of having to filter
out 15-some characters that mean nothing to me, but clearly had a lot
of thought behind them.

They may not have. Indeed, one would hope that eventually attitudinals wouldn't have much thought at all, but just come out.

But UI words may be easier to learn than gismu and lujvo, and there are a more limited number - and most of all there is almost no grammar to get wrong. Others may be intimidated by the grammar as much as you are intimidated? by strings of UI cmavo.

Of course the best solution is to learn them rather than filter them out, and accept being approximate in meaning because they weren't meant to be semantically precise. I suspect that there is a relatively small subset of the cmavo that comprise most of the ones used.

lojbab

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Bob LeChevalier    lojbab@lojban.org    www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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