Re: [lojban] The North Wind and the Sun

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/5/7 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > May I suggest a lujvo involving gasnu?
>> > gasnu gau "do" "x1 [person/agent] is an agentive cause of event x2; *x1
>> > does/brings about x2*"
>> >
>> > For example:
>> > gauju'o - g1=d1 knows how to bring about g2=d2
>>
>> You could do that, but it would be a non-compositional lujvo. You
>> cannot explain the meaning of that "gauju'o" in terms of "djuno", you
>> have to rely on the English gloss. It does not mean "ko'a djuno lo
>> du'u ko'a gasnu ko'e" or anything like that.
>>
> I wouldn't be trying to explain gauju'o in terms of djuno. I would explain
> it in terms of gasnu.

(BTW, it should be "gaurju'o")

OK, what would the explanation be (in Lojban)? And why would you use
"djuno" as part of the lujvo if it plays no role in explaining the
meaning of the lujvo?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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