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The use of Lojban articles has changed a little in the last few years. You should visit http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+use+xorlo to get the new picture :P

As for the {le bajra} problem, I suppose that most of the times you can figure out you're talking about a different runner from context. However, I am sure there is some word which will explicitly state you are talking about someone else. I'd do this myself :P, but I'm in a hurry, so what you should do is to either check the dictionary (It's really usefull. You should use it whenever you're stuck), or visit the IRC channel via the web interface from the main page, go to #ckule, and tipe in "?q different"... although I think that will only give you {drata}, which is the gismu for x1 is different from x2... You could try to use a tanru? lo drata bajra ku

Hope I was helpfull.
Nice to see new people learning Lojban ;)

mi'e .lakatoc.
mu'o

On 8 June 2010 22:09, jamie bechtel <jamie6297@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all.  I've begun looking into Lojban (and Loglan), and if this is the appropriate place to do so, I'll be asking questions here...

If I say "le bajra" several times in an utterance, I assume that each instance is normally interpreted as having the same reference (i.e. I'm probably talking about only one runner).  Is there a curt/simple way to indicate that I'm talking about a new/different runner (eg. "the runner spoke to the runner about the runner")?

Loglan "le", and in some places Lojban "le" is described as analogous to the English definite article (i.e. "le bajra" means the particular runner that I have in mind).  Elsewhere, "le/lo" are distinguished by whether or not "the runner" really is a runner, or merely something that I casually choose to call a runner (correct?).  Are both of these interpretations of "le" correct?  And if "lo" can only mean "that which is most definitely a...", under what circumstances would I use it?  All that I can think of is "a man walks into a bar...", and other such jokes.  It looks to me like there's no real indefinite article, and that "le" is going to be used much more than "lo".  Not that that looks like a problem to me.  I just want to be sure that I have a clear understanding of gadri.

I believe that "le mi cutci", and "le cutci pe le bajra" are legitimate, correct?  Can one also say "le cutci pe mi"?  Can one say "le mi pe bajra"??

Attitude indicators seem to follow rather than precede the words that they modify.  Why do they differ in this way from other Lojban words?

Thanks for your time and attention.

-jamie

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