Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show

[Brian Robertson <raposa.msscripting@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 05:49:45PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>    Why does there have to be strips? On the wiki page an earlier post directs
>    to, there is a reference to Rama, the location of a series of books by
>    Arthur C. Clarke, which utilizes the entire interior surface, not just
>    three strips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_%28spacecraft%29
> 
>    (Rama is also 54km x 20km d, making it large enough to not need a second
>    cylinder, as it, by itself, has roughly double the surface area as the two
>    smaller ones combined. This also provides the benefit of having a lot of
>    room for wildlife, countryside, etc., if the planned size of the inhabited
>    area is unchanged, which has the dual-benefit of rural excursions and
>    easily explaining where the air comes from.)
> 
>    On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> 
>      On Wednesday 14 July 2010 21:44:09 Brian Robertson wrote:
>      > To recount our IRC discussion and mostly my feelings and thoughts
>      about the
>      > layout of the two cylinders.
>      >
>      > Each cylinder is 32Km long and 8Km in diametre. Now, it seems a bit
>      silly
>      > to have this much space being used to segregate districts so we
>      thought
>      > each strip being it's own town made some sense (Only throwing out
>      ideas;
>      > With the small width it might make more sense to have the entire
>      cylinder
>      > be a larger version of this town, but we got the dimensions wrong to
>      start
>      > with.). This gives us three land strips in each cylinder (for 6 in
>      total)
>      > with a length of 32Km and a width of about 4Km ((pi*8)/6). If we split
>      each
>      > strip into eight parts we get eight roughly square sections of land at
>      > 4Km^2. The current suggestion is to make the center two sections a
>      > "downtown", the sections directly on either side of downtown being
>      > commercial/residential areas, and the two sections at the far end of
>      each
>      > end being suburbs (see crappy diagram).
>      >
>      >
>      |--------------------------------------------32Km--------------------------
>      > |-------------------|
>      > |
>      --suburb--|--suburb--|--com/res--|--downtown--|--downtown--|--com/res--|-
>      > |-suburb--|--suburb--|  ]- ~4Km
> 
>      I'm thinking of roads connecting the three land strips, one at the
>      equator
>      (between the two downtown squares) and the other two in the suburbs. The
>      roads are traveled mostly by bicycle, being the most efficient means of
>      locomotion.
> 
>      One end of the cylinder is north and the other is south. Are the
>      cylinders
>      connected north-to-north or south-to-south? How do you go from one
>      cylinder
>      to the other?
> 
>      The outer ring is used for agriculture. Anyone have ideas about that?
>      What
>      about fish? I haven't seen anything resembling an ocean.
> 
>      Pierre
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I would like to see some actual designs and engineering thoughts about
the Roma. The fact that there's two cylinders was concluded to not be
for the extra space, but to be for control and possitioning of the
cylinders. Although I can't recall it now, there was also a discution
about the 'entire inside' design, and it was concluded to not be a
practical design (maybe clsn could add more to this).

Cheers, lorx.

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