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Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Kids Show - names



On 21 Jul 2010, at 19:07, tijlan wrote:

On 21 July 2010 04:41, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where is Alpha from? Does Beta have any particular ethnic background, or is he
> a mutt? What is the ethnic background of the Lojban population?

Beta is a girl.
Alpha is not from anywhere in particular. I wanted it to be easily
dubbed into any language, and I didn't want the character to obviously
be of any ethnicity.

Is Alpha male? Scientifically speaking, at least for humans, it's more like that female emerged before male:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=119799&page=1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bang/ask_yan/which_came_first_man_or_woman

It's also worth noting that the Y chromosome is a variation of the original, basic, a-sexual chromosome called "autosome", while the X chromosome is a direct successor to the autosome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome#Origin). XY makes male, XX makes female. Then it's safe to say that, for all species with the XY sex-determination system, female is closer to the original neutral form, of which male is a derivative.

So I suggest Alpha be female.

While some wonderfully interesting information, I don't see how this has any logical connection whatsoever to the gender of the main character.

It's like saying, "chickens are hatched from eggs, therefore KFC shouldn't sell chicken-based food products, they should only sell fried eggs!"

Hmm, I wonder what an egg fried in the secret blend of herbs and spices would be like.  I digress.

My original thought was that the main character should be female too (anyone who knows me will know I'm fiercely pro gender equality), but after some discussions on IRC we, at the time, decided that it would be easier to voice male characters due to the number of male Lojbanists, and that it would be easier for males and females to relate to a male lead than it would for both males and females to relate to a female lead - at least in the target market as we understand it.

While on the subject of sexism, please don't take the temporary naming of Alpha and Beta as denoting some kind of superior-inferior quasi-social-position of the characters in relation to each other - it's quite the opposite in fact, with Beta being a knowledgeable guiding light on Alpha's journey of discovery.  The temporary names are just to show who the story centres around; primarily it's seen from Alpha's perspective - at other times Beta will be carrying the plot.  The genders are in my opinion, pretty irrelevant, and the temporary names are for convenience and to add a slightly more human touch, rather than continually saying "the boy" and "the girl".

kozmikreis

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