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Re: [lojban] ma krinu lonu lo jbopre na tavla fo la.lojban. ne'i levi snustu | Why aren't we speaking in Lojban in here?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> .oicairo'e lu setese li'u .i mu'i ma do cusku lo tcetce pluja valsi .i mi
> nitcu lo nu ciska lo simsa be zoi .bla x1 frati x2 x3 .bla .ije linji
> tepixra tezu'e lo nu mi djuno lo sumti .yyy cnici to ma valsi toi
> I know I messed that up so bau glico:
> ouch my head at "setese". Why would you say such complicated words. I
> needed to write "x1 frati x2 x3" and draw lines to understand the argument
> order.
>
I use constructions like "setese" for three reasons -- 1) when I'm
translating and trying to mimic the word order of the velfanva 2) When
I'm trying to emphasize one sumti over another (it's paradigmatic that
earlier sumti places seem to be perceived as "more important" than
later ones), and/or 3) If I have a complex sumti, I'd rather throw it
at the end of the sentence rather than have to put a whole bunch of
terminators so that you can "pop up" a half dozen levels and have to
remember "what was the main selbri again? Oh, yeah..." before getting
to the next sumti. That's a lot of processing power to ask of a human
listener/reader. (I tend to write lojban like I speak English -- with
lots of subrodinate cruft)
--gejyspa
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the problem is not just that there's few people who speak
>>> proficiently, but also that the people who can speak are at all
>>> different levels of fluency. There are a very few people who can
>>> manage complicated conversations on a wide variety of topics: Gejyspa,
>>> Xorxes, Pierre, etc.
>>
>>
>> do pukta'a mi .i ku'i lo du'u go'o cu mukti lo nu mi na pu spuda lo vi nu
>> casnu .i mi setese frati lo nu clani lojbo bo selsku kei lo simsa be lo me
>> do mei be'o noi se skicu fo zoi gy. "Oh great, a conversation in Lojban!
>> Oh my, an entire complicated paragraph in Lojban. Oh god,my head, it
>> hurts!" gy. to ko zgana lo nu lo stedu be mi cu spoja toi .i mi nitcu lo nu
>> jdice lo du'u mutce frili fa lo nu tcidu le lojbo kei ji kau lo nu tcidu lo
>> drata selmri .i mi nitcu lo za'i lo besna be mi cu klina pe'a kei .e lo za'i
>> mi mulno cikna je jundi .i la'a cu'i mi nitcu tu'a lo kafxu'i .i va'o lo nu
>> ro lo tcini cu prane kei mi tcidu lo lojbo
>>
>> ni'o mi kakne lo nu cusku bau la lojban sekai lo ka milxe filsmu .e lo ka
>> frili .iku'i lo nu tcidu na roroi frili mi
>>
>> --gejyspa
>>
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