Re: [lojban] Re: You're Doing it Wrong

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Brian Shannon
<teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 8 October 2010 19:23, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Also, we're not a dead community.
>> ...
>> You involved yourself with non-interactive learning media and then
>> seemed put-off by the lack of community.
>
> I'm put off by the lack of activity around incomplete learning
> materials for newcomers such as myself - not by a lack of community.
>

  Ooh, ooh!  Can I play "blame the newbie"?  Fact is, we were ALL
newbies once.  Every single one of us. Even lojbab, the inventor of
lojban.   And all of us who are in the community today learned with at
MOST the amount of material you have at your disposal, and in many
cases, a lot less.  So obviously, it's out there, it's sufficient for
the purposes of learning, and it's getting more and more each day.  I
personally learned by reading the CLL cover-to-cover, then the gismu
lists.  CLL is far from dead or incomplete.  I skipped L4B (also far
from dead or incomplete) but many people find it just great.  IRC was
a dark and scary place when I first started, with oldbies more likely
to bite your head off than be welcoming (not all, just the prevailing
oeuvre).  Thankfully, that has changed drastically.  Less kvetching
and more requesting what is you need in order to help you learn would
be a more effective tactic.

                         --gejyspa

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