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Re: [lojban] Re: You're Doing it Wrong
Michael Turniansky wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Brian Shannon
<teapot.philosopher@googlemail.com> wrote:
On 8 October 2010 19:23, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
Also, we're not a dead community.
...
You involved yourself with non-interactive learning media and then
seemed put-off by the lack of community.
I'm put off by the lack of activity around incomplete learning
materials for newcomers such as myself - not by a lack of community.
Ooh, ooh! Can I play "blame the newbie"? Fact is, we were ALL
newbies once. Every single one of us. Even lojbab, the inventor of
lojban.
These days, lojbab sometimes feels like he is a newbie again %^)
And all of us who are in the community today learned with at
MOST the amount of material you have at your disposal, and in many
cases, a lot less.
Before 1997, there was no CLL, and the most detailed material to learn
from was the diagrammed summary that is now Chapter 2 of CLL, and the
YACC grammar itself, and for a chunk of the language, the incomplete
draft textbook that I was writing as I went along teaching the first
Lojban class in 1989.
> So obviously, it's out there, it's sufficient for
the purposes of learning,
Nick Nicolas learned the language basically after a weekend of studying
the minimal materials available in 1990, and then just starting to write
and translate. The only real way to learn a language is to use it, and
to make LOTS of mistakes (which everyone will be glad to correct).
lojbab
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Bob LeChevalier lojbab@lojban.org www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.
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