[lojban] Fw: xagrai and superlatives

["A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>]

Hi all.

I sent this to the jbovlaste list, but got no response whatsoever.
That's why it's here.  There appear to have been two 'schools of thought' 
on this.  I would like to know if there is concensus now.

totus



----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com>
> To: jbovlaste@lojban.org
> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 10:17:19 AM
> Subject: xagrai and superlatives
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have just seen this a lujvo in jbovlaste that really irks me:
> 
> xagrai
> t1=x1 is optimal in property t2 of extremity t3 among range t4.
> 
> While technically, a lujvo can be defined as anything, it should be 
> reasonable.  The property here is 'goodness' so what is t2 doing there?
> 
> If you subscribe to the convention of keeping the places in the same order 
> the same as those in the originating gismu, then the lujvo should be:
> 
> 1) t1=x1 is the best for x2 by standard x3, the extreme being t3, among 
> set/range t4
>  
> from:
> t1=x1 traji loka xamgu x2 x3 kei t3 t4
>  
> OR
>  
> If on the other hand you prefer the convention of reordering he places so that 

> the most used ones come first, and rarely used ones get dropped, then:
>  
> 2) t1=x1 is the best among set/range t4 for x2 by standard x3
>  
> Superlatives are used frequently, in particular {xagrai}, so it would be good 
> to get some consensus on this.
>  
> Opinions please.
>  
> totus
> 

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