[lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra

[Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com>]

You're just being arbitrary at this point. I've explained quite
thoroughly my side of the argument, and you seem to be ignoring my
statements instead of addressing them. For the record, I have
explained that the reason it's wrong is because the meaning cannot
change based on context. When {djica} means "wants" in some contexts
and "wants to have" in others, that is bad. This is why pilno/dunda is
okay and djica/nitcu is not. We're not discussing universes of
discourse, epistemology, unicorns, magical crabs, and whether we give
an apple or give ownership of an apple. It comes down to the simple
fact that a gismu cannot change meanings based on context, and you're
implying that it can. Consistency is important. If {djica lo plise}
means "Want to have an apple." then what does {djica lo nu bajra}
mean? "Want to have a running."? You're bringing up a lot of pointless
bullshit that really doesn't have anything to do with the actual
problem here. You're constantly making comparisons to English and then
justifying your malgli because it's valid in English.

You are not listening, you are not following logic or standard
practice, and I am getting extremely frustrated.

So, I am going to, as politely as possible, bow out of this
conversation.

I'm done.

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