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Re: [lojban] cu-alike for other situations

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 03:51:13PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> Wait, my understanding of {cu} was that it breaks out to the "main
> bridi". Maybe I've been misunderstanding it up to this point.
> 
> If I say:
> 
> lo nu do poi se cinri lo nu bajra cu cumki
> 
> Would this be ungrammatical because the first abstraction we come
> to is missing a selbri?  Or because the outermost bridi is missing
> a selbri?

It's perfectly grammatical, it's just not a sentence; it's a single
sumti describing an event, with "cumki" as the selbri for the event:

text
   sumti6
   |- CMAVO
   |     LE: lo
   |- tanruUnit2
      |- CMAVO
      |     NU: nu
      |- sentence
         |- sumti5
         |  |- CMAVO
         |  |     KOhA: do
         |  |- relativeClause1
         |     |- CMAVO
         |     |     NOI: poi
         |     |- bridiTail3
         |        |- tanruUnit2
         |        |  |- CMAVO
         |        |  |     SE: se
         |        |  |- BRIVLA
         |        |        gismu: cinri
         |        |- sumti6
         |           |- CMAVO
         |           |     LE: lo
         |           |- tanruUnit2
         |              |- CMAVO
         |              |     NU: nu
         |              |- BRIVLA
         |                    gismu: bajra
         |- CMAVO
         |     CU: cu
         |- BRIVLA
               gismu: cumki


Compare "lo nu do poi se cinri lo nu bajra cu cumki cu xunre":

text
   sentence
   |- sumti6
   |  |- CMAVO
   |  |     LE: lo
   |  |- tanruUnit2
   |     |- CMAVO
   |     |     NU: nu
   |     |- sentence
   |        |- sumti5
   |        |  |- CMAVO
   |        |  |     KOhA: do
   |        |  |- relativeClause1
   |        |     |- CMAVO
   |        |     |     NOI: poi
   |        |     |- bridiTail3
   |        |        |- tanruUnit2
   |        |        |  |- CMAVO
   |        |        |  |     SE: se
   |        |        |  |- BRIVLA
   |        |        |        gismu: cinri
   |        |        |- sumti6
   |        |           |- CMAVO
   |        |           |     LE: lo
   |        |           |- tanruUnit2
   |        |              |- CMAVO
   |        |              |     NU: nu
   |        |              |- BRIVLA
   |        |                    gismu: bajra
   |        |- CMAVO
   |        |     CU: cu
   |        |- BRIVLA
   |              gismu: cumki
   |- CMAVO
   |     CU: cu
   |- BRIVLA
         gismu: xunre

-Robin

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