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Re: [lojban] Re: Tanru automatically forming



"It won't be implemented" doesn't progress much towards answering my question, especially since my question was never a proposal.

The arguments so far seem to be "tanru are more common than you think" and "the binding between seltau and tertau is tight enough that it makes logical sense for it to not need a cmavo". Any others?

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry; I just can't see any substantive upside to making tanru
> non-forming by default.

+1

> Even as much as I see people forming them all
> the time by accident (generally because they don't completely
> understand how terminators work.)

+1

> I may be a bit biased, though,
> because I generally love using tanru. I use tons of them, because they
> often get the job done faster and with the same, easily implied
> meaning.

+1

> For any given bridi, the only common place where you'll have
> to consciously mark against tanru creation is before the 'main'
> selbri, and that's easily solved with at worst a single terminator, or
> {cu} to avoid multiples. I use tanru within {lo ... ku} quite often
> and to have to mark that I'm creating tanru would absolutely slow my
> speech and add way too much verbosity. Nothing gained, plenty lost.

+1

> As a brief aside - and please, no one take this as a a personal attack
> - this sort of proposal is the sort of thing that breathes of improper
> mastery of terminators. tanru became *far* less confusing and ominous
> to me once I learned them properly.

+1

It's one of many nifty ideas that will never ever ever be implemented
in Lojban. Sorry.

mi'e .lindar. mu'o

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