This is related to what I've wanted to do with the jorne.org project. I am definitely interested in being a part of the discussion. No time to go to Penguicon, but I am willing to chat with the group.
Reports of Semantic Web's death have been greatly exaggerated, and I can assure you that it is quite alive and well. Early adopters include Best Buy, US Library of Congress, Reuters, US Census, US DoD, EU governments, Google (Rich Snippets), and biomedical researchers, to mention only a few who are using and publishing Linked Data and are willing to put serious time and money into it. Perhaps Robin meant something different by his use of "Semantic Web", but a large part of Tim Berners-Lee's original vision is being implemented now in a big way.
Lojban is unique among languages in that the entire Lojban corpus could become a part of the Linked Data "cloud" (see linkeddata.org). To make this happen, you would:
1. parse text into predicates (moderately hard but doable)2. convert predicates to RDF (easy enough once you have the predicates, mostly this involves defining a standard URI/ID for each primitive) 3. publish RDF/OWL correlations between each Lojban primitive and dbpedia, wordnet, and other linked data sets (this is a manual process done once for each Lojban primitive).
I posted something about this before, but I do have a very rudimentary web service that takes Lojban text and returns the parse tree as XML (using Robin's PEG parser). I haven't had time to work much on it, but I started to look at using Jena (a Java RDF API) to produce RDF as output instead. I would need help with converting the tree into predicates, since my Lojban ability is limited.
See http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/b39f94b183cf344f and http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/7e48f11c43f62b63/68095f3ae30b02dd The web service is at http://jorne.org/form.jsp Try pasting in some short text examples and let me know what you think. Quoting ".alyn.post." <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org>:
[I've moved this to it's own thread for higher visibility of the topic.] On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:38:23PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:> Well, to a certain extent you're right, but if you choose the > right kind of semantic representation, you can do things like > proving that two different strings of Lojban have the same > meaning. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the moment no machine > grammar of Lojban represents the fact that “mi viska do” is > equivalent to “do se viska mi”. Right, very true. People have started playing with that.I've started playing with it, certainly. Enough to where I'm considering flying out to Penguicon to brainstorm and talk about it with other Lojbanists. If others of you are working on it and are able and interested in meeting about it, will you speak up? -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.
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