On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM, John E. Clifford <
kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not to mention the whole question of whether the greatest good --whatever
> that means -- is an appropriate basis for ethical decisions.
>
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> On Jan 21, 2011, at 10:26, Luke Bergen <
lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> .i'ecai
> .iku'i so'i prenu cu krici lo du'u broda mintu lo selvirnu .i broda cei ko'a
> zukte fi lo nu jmive ja gleki ja xamgu lo drata kei ki'unai lo nu zukte cu
> xlali ko'a
> mi nelci lo selsku be do doi stevo
> .i na virnu ro lo nu toldjuno zukte
> Of course, that flies in the face of the classic act of heroism where a guy
> throws himself in front of a bus in order to shove a complete stranger out
> of the way. But, as per my earlier argument, it is kind of naive to assume
> that you're life is worth less than that of a complete stranger. In case my
> lojban is, again, too funky for clear understanding: many people believe
> that selflessness is synonymous with virtue.
> In reality, it is sometimes the case that "the greatest good" happens to
> coincide with a good outcome for "you". To assume that that never happens
> is naive.
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:16 AM, MorphemeAddict <
lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nothing done blindly is virtuous.
>>
>> stevo
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Luke Bergen <
lukeabergen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> .u'u .i sa'u .i broda cei ko'a sevmrori'a va'ojemu'i lo nu lo nu nei kei
>>> cu rinka lo nu lo drata cu jmive .i brode cei ko'a na'e pensi gi'e romoi
>>> broda va'o lo nu cumki .i brodi cei ko'a pensi .ijebo va'o lo nu lo drata cu
>>> zmadu ko'a lo ka vajni lo remna keikei ko'a broda lo drata .iku'ibo va'o lo
>>> nu ko'a zmadu lo drata kei ko'a na broda .i zmadu fi lo ka virdu kei fi'a
>>> brode fi'a brodi
>>>
>>> .u'ucai
>>>
>>> I think this is one of those times where my lojban is just not up to the
>>> task of expressing such a complex concept. In english then: is it more
>>> virtuous to blindly sacrifice onesself in order to save another, or is it
>>> more virtuous to consider probabalistically which life is more important to
>>> hummanity and act accordingly?
>>>
>>> i.e. if bob is on the brink of a breakthrough cure for cancer, should he
>>> be considered virtuous for sacrificing his life to save a homeless guy on
>>> the street?
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2011 5:16 PM, "Jorge Llambías" <
jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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