Re: [lojban] will you help me understand BAhE+BU?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

Well, {ge'e} being exactly that was my point there; {ba'e} is *very*
generic emphasis. As far as I can tell it's actually pretty
un-Lojbanic; it seems to mean "I'd verbally empasize this if I was
speaking English".

je'u works; {.o'o cu'i} works, others.

-Robin

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 03:24:43PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> Ok, so let's say we DO throw {ba'e valsi} out and replace it with
> {valsi ge'e}... which UI would you use for emphasis like "I didn't
> go to the STORE. I went to SCHOOL"?  {mi na klama ba'e lo zarci .i
> mi klama ba'e lo ckule}. {je'u} maybe?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org
> > wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:37:46AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:40:07PM -0700, .alyn.post. wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to make sense of various statements about Magic Words on
> > > > the wiki:
> > > >
> > > >   (BAhE, even though it can modify any word, is not a magic word,
> > > >   because it doesn't affect the function of the word it modifies)[1]
> > >
> > > I wonder what would happen if I simply declared by fiat that ba'e is
> > > deprecated, and you should use ge'e or another UI instead (since
> > > AFAICT they have exactly the same "meaning" (or, rather, lack of
> > > meaning)), and in 2 years if no insurmountable problems are found
> > > it'll be removed from the grammar?
> > >
> > > This strikes me as about the largest change I could make without
> > > immediately being tossed out on my ass. -_-
> > >
> > > -Robin
> > >
> >
> > I knew someone working on a paper whose thesis was "When did the US
> > commit to using atomic weapons in WWII?"  She was trying to identify
> > what moment the US irrevocably committed to droping an atomic bomb.
> >
> > She concluded that the moment the Manhattan Project began the US
> > committed to using atomic weapons.  That you couldn't start a
> > project of that magnitude, succeed in developing a bomb, and then
> > not use it.
> >
> > Like Chekhov's gun, I believe.  Given that you were granted
> > benevolent dictator powers, it seems a shame to let it go to waste.
> >
> > -Alan
> > --
> > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
> >
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