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Re: [lojban] question about ku
dur: correcting myself, it's mentioned:
http://dag.github.com/cll/10/1/
I did a terrible job of looking. :-)
-Alan
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:23:39PM -0700, .alyn.post. wrote:
> Luke, I went hunting and found this in the CLL:
>
> http://dag.github.com/cll/20/
>
> selma'o KU (Chapter 6, Chapter 10)
>
> Elidable terminator for LE and some uses of LA. Indicates the end of
> a description sumti. Also used after a tense or modal to indicate
> that no sumti follows, and in the compound NA+KU to indicate natural
> language-style negation.
>
> I didn't find an example of terminating a tense or modal with {ku},
> but I wasn't exhaustive in my search. I'm happy I found some
> mention of this usage.
>
> -Alan
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:08:29PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> > This is the meat of my question. My initial guess was that {ba} expects a
> > sumti as is the case with {mi citka lo plise ba lo nu mi xagji} and that
> > putting it before the selbri or terminating it with {ku} is just a way of
> > saying "forget that sumti, it's zo'e or something". But the only way of
> > getting that is for there to be an implicit {lo} OR {ku} is special in
> > that it terminates tags like LE, BAI, BA, (and FA?). But that doesn't seem
> > right because then why wouldn't the ku be necessary in the case of {mi ba
> > [ku] citka lo plise}?
> >
> > I wish I understood PEG better.
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Ian Johnson <[1]blindbravado@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Still no idea why ku can terminate two completely unrelated selma'o,
> > though.
> >
> > mu'o mi'e .latros.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Luke Bergen <[2]lukeabergen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't know why it just occurred to me but... what exactly is "ku"
> > terminatiging in "baku mi citka"? Is there an implicit "lo" so that
> > parsers see this as /really/ being something like "baloku mi citka"?
> > Or is ku just able to terminate "ba"? I didn't know that BA had a
> > terminator... either way something feels strange.
> >
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