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Re: [lojban] question about ku



Luke, I went hunting and found this in the CLL:

http://dag.github.com/cll/20/

  selma'o KU (Chapter 6, Chapter 10)

  Elidable terminator for LE and some uses of LA. Indicates the end of
  a description sumti. Also used after a tense or modal to indicate
  that no sumti follows, and in the compound NA+KU to indicate natural
  language-style negation.

I didn't find an example of terminating a tense or modal with {ku},
but I wasn't exhaustive in my search.  I'm happy I found some
mention of this usage.

-Alan

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 07:08:29PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
>    This is the meat of my question. My initial guess was that {ba} expects a
>    sumti as is the case with {mi citka lo plise ba lo nu mi xagji} and that
>    putting it before the selbri or terminating it with {ku} is just a way of
>    saying "forget that sumti, it's zo'e or something". But the only way of
>    getting that is for there to be an implicit {lo} OR {ku} is special in
>    that it terminates tags like LE, BAI, BA, (and FA?). But that doesn't seem
>    right because then why wouldn't the ku be necessary in the case of {mi ba
>    [ku] citka lo plise}?
> 
>    I wish I understood PEG better.
>    On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Ian Johnson <[1]blindbravado@gmail.com>
>    wrote:
> 
>      Still no idea why ku can terminate two completely unrelated selma'o,
>      though.
> 
>      mu'o mi'e .latros.
> 
>      On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Luke Bergen <[2]lukeabergen@gmail.com>
>      wrote:
> 
>        I don't know why it just occurred to me but... what exactly is "ku"
>        terminatiging in "baku mi citka"? Is there an implicit "lo" so that
>        parsers see this as /really/ being something like "baloku mi citka"?
>        Or is ku just able to terminate "ba"? I didn't know that BA had a
>        terminator... either way something feels strange.
> 
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