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Re: [lojban] Re: Idea: Levels



If you want to do more than skim, here are the speaking and writing
guidelines:

  http://www.actfl.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3349
  http://www.actfl.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3326

It is probably still too nebulous and imprecise, though I claim it
is precisely 16 pages minus one promise better than what we have
so far.

-Alan

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 12:05:38PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
>    I just skimmed the ACTFL guidelines.
> 
>    They seem too nebulous and imprecise to be used on their own. They could
>    serve as guidelines for creating the levels, but given that I can't
>    imagine it taking more than a week (at about 5-10 minutes a day) of
>    glancing at dictionary definitions of relevant words to get to the
>    novice-high level, I feel some adjustments would need to be made.
> 
>    On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:22 AM, .alyn.post.
>    <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> 
>      Where are you Keys? uses the ACTFL Proficiency Guidelines[1], which
>      has 9 grades. They ported this proficiency scale to use the
>      terminology of the game:
> 
>      [2]http://whereareyourkeys.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/wayk-proficiency-scale.pdf
> 
>      -Alan
> 
>      1: [3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTFL_Proficiency_Guidelines
>      On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:58:20AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
>      > I feel like 6 levels is too few, unless there are sublevels within
>      each
>      > level.
>      >
>      > Also, if we're treating this like a game, it may pay to think up fun
>      > achievements. e.g. ask a question on irc, answer a question on irc,
>      start
>      > an argument on irc.
>      >
>      > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Lindar <[1][4]lindarthebard@yahoo.com>
>      wrote:
>      >
>      > I think this is a brilliant idea, and definitely ties into previously
>      > mentioned ideas regarding having 'levels' like an RPG. The obvious
>      > reward is saying that you're a level X Lojbanist so you can read level
>      X
>      > text. I think this would be a fascinating project. I would say six
>      tiers
>      > would be a good amount, and each tier should have a vocabulary list
>      with
>      > certain selma'o in each one. By tier 3 the speaker should stop using
>      > English names (like 'terminator') and use Lojban grammar names (like
>      > {fa'orma'o}).
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