Re: [lojban] zoi bug in camxes?

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, .alyn.post.
<alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>
> From the conversation, I can summarize three separate proposals:
>
> 1) leave the PEG grammar alone and correct the CLL to describe the
>   way this grammar is behaving.

This is currently my preference.

> 2) replace the rule for zoi-word to match non-lojban-word rather
>   than any-word, so 'gyrate' won't be divided into three words,
>   satisfying Robin's consistency argument.  We'll still need to
>   update the CLL for the behavior, I think.

Notice that "gyrate" does NOT match "non-lojban-word" (and neither
does "gyrations" for that matter). You probably mean something else,
some new rule like "string-of-phonemes-without-space <- non-space+".
This also relates to the ZOhOI proposal.

Yes, CLL needs updating in any case. Robin requires the final
delimiter to be followed by a pause, which CLL does not.

> 3) Replace the PEG grammar with something that reads the stuff
>   between the ZOI delimiter a character at a time.  Either require
>   a pause before the final delimiter or not.
>
> I like 2, 1, and then 3 in that order.

1, 2, 3 for me.

> 2 I like because because of the argument Robin raised about
> consistency.  I think it is surprising that gyrate is invalid
> but gyration is valid, and I don't think that surprise is a useful
> feature.  I can't think of a reason to dislike 2, please help me
> with that.

But wouldn't "zoi mi miklama mi" as a valid quote be surprising? Are
you equally tempted to read "miklama" as a single word as you are to
read "gyrate" as one word, or are you just thinking English?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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