[lojban] Re: Register Login Logout revisited

[vensa <seraviv@gmail.com>]

OK, so here's my take on this whole issue:

1. As for "register", dictionary.com defines the noun "register" as
firstly:
"a book in which records of acts, events, names, etc., are kept"
and the verb "register" as firstly:
"to enter or cause to be entered formally in a register".
This causes me to want "register" to be about "recording", i.e.
{vreji}.
And, what are you recording? The fact that you are a member.
So I propose:
{cmirejgau}
Defined as:
da gasnu lonu zo'e vreji lodu'u da cmima de vau da di
Or:
x1=g1=v3=c1 registers as a member of x2=c2, registration preserved in
medium x3=v4


2. As for "log in/out". Obviously, these terms need to be somehow
opposite of each other. To do this, we might think to either use
{to'e}, or oppositely defined gismu (such as the proposed {nenri} and
{bartu}). This might work if we want to stick with something simple
like "Enter" and "Exit" (which is BTW how most hebrew sites translate
"log in/out").
However, if we want to be more sophisticated, the {to'e} method
becomes problematic, because the act of logging in is not exactly
opposite to the act of logging out. i.e. When logging in you provide
credentials to be recognized by, and when logging out you simply
remove yourself. You don't "unprovide" those credentials.

That's why IMO we should focus here on defining the "state" of being
logged in, and use {co'a} and {co'u} as the "opposites" in the
relation (as was recently suggested). Also, I think it would be good
to have some common link, between the word for "register" and "logged
in". So, IMO being logged in is about providing some kind of
credentials (which incidentaly dont have do be a "name" persay (you
might log in with a fingerprint)) that "make you familiar" to the site/
system/group which you previously registered with.
So, in concluson I propose:
{cmisau}
Defined as:
da slabu de loka da cmima de vau di
Or:
x1=s1=c1 is logged in to x2=s2=c2 by standard x3=s4

Effectively, "log in" and "log out" become {co'arcmisau} and
{co'urcmisau} respectively - or just {ko co'a cmisau} and {ko co'u
cmisau}

On Mar 10, 11:29 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Logging in is a kind of identification or authentication, what can e do with
> that concept?
>
> Sent from my Android.
>
> On Mar 10, 2011 11:58 AM, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> iesai
>
> I agree with {co'a broda}, although I think {mo'u broda} might be better for
> logging out (it's the natural end of one event of "being logged in", not
> some interruption).
>
> I like the idea of {cmene} being in the lujvo, but I'm less sure of {zvati}.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 10 Marc...
>
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