On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there an experimental cmavo which binds two things into a tanru-like state? sa'unai something which takes the grammar of the right word, with the meaning modified in some vague way by the selbri to its left?
I doubt it.
Would we want one?
I doubt it.
need one?
I doubt it.
All you need for a tanru is two selbri (or more). And everything in Lojban either is or can be made into a selbri. Put two selbri next to each other, and it's a tanru.
Here's an example of a very big tanru created using all of the selbri conversions I know of:
me by. me'u cimei xamoi pimucu'o nu'a su'i piresi'e ki'ova'e klama bratce kolbasa me la.pandas. me lonu cadzu kei me lu .i tirxu .i tirxu li'u me zoi gy. {me} is probably the most useful converter .gy.
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
{nicte ze'ei co'o} doesn't even really make sense if you ignore English; it means "night", the predicate, but has the grammar of selma'o COI. That is, the semantics of the second word are completely ignored, only its grammar is significant.
Personally I'd just say {co'o xamgu sipna} or something, I think.
mu'o mi'e .latros.On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:42 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
It all started with the simple question of someone asking me if {nicte xamgu} was a valid translation of "Good night."
Sometimes, going off the deep end is fun.
I recognize (or at least understand it to be the case) that selbri are as extensible as I could possibly want them.
Since selbri can be converted into sumti, sumti are also as extensible as I could want.
Is there a way that I can express a vocative which is a night parting? A water parting? A death parting?
Is {ze'ei} the accepted way to do this, and are {nicte ze'ei co'o}, etc. valid uses?
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