[lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University

[djandus <jandew@gmail.com>]

doi Jonathan,
I'm going to look into video equipment... that would be very
excellent, if I could get it set up! Very excellent idea :)

And of course I'd overlook the obvious choice! I'll definitely use
lojban.org for the course materials!

On Apr 10, 2:19 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, I did think of one suggestion: record the lectures and post them on
> YouTube. I'm certain the in-class videos would be useful to others.
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> As for a place to put stuff, lojban.org is an obvious choice. You can either
> use the wiki, which can be modified by anyone, or if you want some other
> interface, you can talk to Robin about the details.
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> doi Robin, you are still the one that maintains lojban.org, yes?
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> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I happen to have a number of friends who have already requested the
> > same thing, which is partly why I want to have everything done online.
> > (The other reason being: who likes all that paper stuff anyway?) So,
> > as it stands, I would have everything that would be covered in class
> > available online for anyone for certain. The exercises that would be
> > completed through Owlspace I will have to put a little extra effort
> > into releasing on a schedule, but I'm sure I can work it out. (It's
> > not that I'm afraid of students knowing how to do assignments before
> > they have to do them -- as I mentioned before, the grades don't matter
> > very much. Really, I'm afraid of students being scared off by seeing a
> > huge document of assignments.)
>
> > I certainly want this to be something that others can study along with
> > from anywhere, following along as it continues in the fall. (I've
> > already started typing up a bit of an introduction, where I explain
> > how if you're reading this info and you're not in my class, try to
> > keep to a 14-week schedule, and try to get a partner to learn with, to
> > practice conversation.)
>
> > Exactly where all this information will reside is a little up in the
> > air, but I'm fairly certain I get a webpage as a Rice student that I
> > can use for this purpose. Basically, I'll just double all of the
> > information online as it runs in the classroom.
>
> > Speaking of all of this, I forgot to mention that I am relatively
> > proficient in typing with LaTeX, (through LyX, with some direct TeX
> > code experience) as one maybe can tell from the Table of Contents I
> > linked to. So, I hope to have all of my lesson plans detailed in there
> > in a way that as I teach a class, anyone can go straight to a document
> > and read what I taught.
>
> > --djandus
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> > On Apr 10, 3:11 am, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, I can only think of two things to say: First, Right On! That's just
> > > freaking awesome that someone going to be teaching Lojban at a
> > university.
> > > Second, I humbly request that you make as much of the materials you use
> > > available to non-Rice Lojban students as well, because the more good
> > > learning resources our nintadni have, the better.
>
> > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > coi rodo
>
> > > > So, I am Joe Anderson, an undergraduate at Rice, and am planning on
> > > > teaching a class on Lojban in the fall.
> > > > (http://courses.rice.edu/admweb/swkscat.main?
> > > > p_action=COURSE&p_crn=16915&p_term=201210)
>
> > > > I know a lot about Lojban, but I'm going to have to work like crazy to
> > > > put this together, especially over the summer. I originally learned
> > > > Lojban through Lojban for Beginners, about 3 years ago. I have started
> > > > visiting the IRC only recently, learning a lot about how the language
> > > > has been changing in Lojbanistan since that teaching aid was created.
> > > > I've been playing around with many other teaching aids, especially
> > > > Anki, and have many ideas for how to structure the class. I've also
> > > > been working closely with a French professor here who studies teaching
> > > > languages in general. With her help, I've already made a pretty
> > > > accurate table of contents for the course, which I have uploaded here:
> > > >http://jandew.ersoft.org/lojban/contents.pdf
> > > > My main objectives are to teach proficiency in conversation and cover
> > > > the grammar of approximately half of Lojban for Beginners. From my
> > > > table of contents, you can note that this entails teaching everything
> > > > up to tenses, where including the last chapter in my lesson plans is
> > > > entirely up to how much lesson time I have. As for the time I have,
> > > > I'm given a one-hour class a week for 14 weeks. My plan is to have as
> > > > much talking as possible in class, with vocabulary and exercises being
> > > > covered outside of class. To do that, I'm wanting to write up
> > > > exercises that can be completed online (I'm currently investigating
> > > > how much I can do with Owlspace) and require students to use Anki and
> > > > somehow turn in their study results. (I know Anki keeps track of that
> > > > very well.) There's obviously a lot of parts to this, but with
> > > > everything so primordial, here's what I'd love to have help with:
> > > >   Lesson plans:
> > > >      The theory behind ordering the courses as I have, making sure
> > > > the general plans are good
> > > >      What I'll be covering in class, how to keep students on their
> > > > toes
> > > >      Exercises to give outside of class, creative assignments
> > > >      The vocabulary I will cover -- how much per week, what order,
> > > > etc.
> > > >      Any ideas about study materials -- I'm going to keep it simple,
> > > > with vocabulary in one place, (Anki,) and other exercises in another.
> > > > (online, probably Owlspace) If anyone has interesting ideas on cool
> > > > study materials I could put it, I'd love to try to fit it in
> > > > somewhere.
> > > >   I also need support in teaching me -- I need to get more proficient
> > > > in speaking Lojban in the areas I will be teaching. I am not lacking
> > > > so much in the concepts as the vocabulary. I want to get the students
> > > > used to Lojban conversation, and I'm still not used to it, yet!
> > > >   There is a strong possibility that I can organize one day to have a
> > > > computer lab trip for a videoconference with other Lojbanists! I think
> > > > this would be a really fun way to end things, making sure that the
> > > > students get connected with Lojbanistan. Any interested in helping
> > > > with that may need to do the same as I, practicing conversation with
> > > > the basic tools I will end up teaching over the semester.
> > > >   One day must be spent "outside of class" as a requirement for
> > > > student-taught courses at Rice. Ideas for this are welcome -- right
> > > > now, the best I've got is something like a scavenger hunt on campus.
> > > > (note that with a videoconference and a day-outside-of-class, that
> > > > means I really only have 12 weeks of class that I can count on)
> > > >   Any suggestions on communication. Right now, I'm only really
> > > > accustomed to email and the IRC. This is my first post on the mailing
> > > > list. I have browsed around a lot on lojban.org, but there's a lot of
> > > > information there, and if anyone recognizes some great online resource
> > > > for anything, even talking about this, (in case this discussion
> > > > clutters up the mailing list or something,) then feel free to speak up
> > > > about it.
> > > >   I happen to know how to program in python, and I've been working on
> > > > a few study programs to help, say, learn the numbers. I'd love people
> > > > to help suggest improvements for those as well, as I write them.
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> > > > In working through this, I will for certain be able to have the
> > > > resources associated with Owlspace, which basically entails easy
> > > > communication with students and ability to have assignments on there,
> > > > in a variety of ways. I will be investigating its capabilities as soon
> > > > as possible. I probably will have access to it after Fall
> > > > Registration, which begins tomorrow. I will also start getting numbers
> > > > of people signed up for the course then. For those eager to learn more
> > > > about that resource:
> > > >https://owlspace-ccm.rice.edu/portal/site/!gateway/page/!gateway-300
> > > > I may end up also having access to the the Language Resource Center on
> > > > campus, which means computer lab access with built-in speaking
> > > > capabilities and any associated online resources. This means I could
> > > > give assignments with audio or video interaction -- things which may
> > > > not exist yet for Lojban. (These resources are normally used in ways
> > > > like having a test with the last question being "Speak for at least
> > > > one minute about {your family..., what you do on the weekend...,
> > > > etc.}" or giving an assignment where students watch a video of a
> > > > weatherman speaking and then answer questions about the weather.)
> > > > These sorts of assignments/tests can be given online, if necessary. I
> > > > might be able to have Anki installed in the lab in a lojban folder, so
> > > > that students have access to it there, etc.
>
> > > > Oh, and I need to explain student-taught courses! So, at Rice, they
> > > > work like this: it's counted as a one-credit course, as well as being
> > > > a special type of pass-fail, called satisfactory-unsatisfactory, where
> > > > the difference is in how GPA is calculated. Basically, this all means
> > > > that even though I will have to have grades and whatnot, the grade
> > > > will be rather unimportant. As a con, students will be rather
> > > > unmotivated by bad grades. As a pro, the students who sign up will
> > > > probably be extremely motivated by desire to learn the language
> > > > itself. So, I can actually put very little focus on grading. (Also,
> > > > note that at Rice it's really common for students to change around
> > > > their schedule quite a lot for the first two weeks. I've been
> > > > factoring that in to exactly how my lesson plans will work.)
>
> > > > Many of my plans are very flexible, so I'm welcoming as many
> > > > criticisms and new ideas as possible right now. For now, I think
> > > > that's best done through this mailing list, but I'm sure people will
> > > > eventually need my direct email address:
> > > > jandew+loj...@gmail.com
> > > > (don't worry about cluttering my email -- gmail will tag anything you
> > > > send to the
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